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Comparative Review: John Danaher's Pin Escapes and Lachlan Giles' Fundamentals of BJJ Escapes (long)

During quarantine, I watched all 18 hours of Danaher’s Pin Escapes and Giles’ Fundamentals of BJJ Escapes instructionals, and took careful notes on everything, eventually totaling 48 typed, single-spaced pages. These are my thoughts.
TL;DR
Both are excellent sets, and both are applicable to both gi and no-gi. Danaher’s wins on depth, while Giles’ wins on breadth. I recommend Giles’ set for white belts, due to lower price and greater number of positions dealt with, while Danaher’s is better for those further along who still have trouble getting basic mount and side control escapes to work for them and need extra details.
Value
Danaher: $197 for 10 hours, 52 minutes, 17 seconds = 3 min 19 sec per $; produced 26 pages of notes = $7.57 per page of notes; information density of 25 minutes per page
Giles: $127 for 7 hours, 14 minutes, 12 seconds = 3 min 25 sec per $; produced 22 pages of notes = $5.77 per page of notes; information density of 19 minutes 42 seconds per page
Introductory Blather
Danaher: 1 hour, 24 minutes. Lots of repetition here, in an “I just said this in voiceover to PowerPoint slides, and now I'm going to say it again while looking into the camera” way. On the other hand, he presents a lot of careful analysis on what constitutes a pin, and based on that, presents a 5-step heuristic for escaping pins, worked examples of which constitute the rest of the Pin Escapes instructional.
Giles: 28 minutes. No Danaher-esque theoretical analysis here, but he does include some useful practical advice on how to go about learning the material on the instructional and how to incorporate it into one's game. Much of the content is in the titles of the sections listed on the order page for this product on bjjfanatics.com. Have you ever watched the fundamentals section of the Grapplers Guide? You know the videos that have a clear title, like “Don't chew gum on the mats,” and you click on it, and it's a 7-minute video of Jason Scully talking about why you shouldn't chew gum on the mats, and you watch until the end like the fool you are, and you get to the end, and you think, “Why the heck was this a video? And how could he talk so fast for so long and still say nothing more than the title?” Well, much of this is like that. (Sorry, Jason. You know I love Grapplers Guide and I'm only kidding. Kinda.) (Sorry, Lachlan. You know the only reason I got Grapplers Guide was for your videos, and I'm only kidding. Kinda.)
Fundamental Moves
Danaher: 39 minutes. Everything in this section is covered more in depth, with better camera angles and better explanation, in Danaher's free instructional, Self-Mastery: BJJ Solo Drills. The content is fantastic, but the only real reason you'd watch this instead of BJJ Solo Drills is because it's shorter and covers only the movements you need for this escape instructional. Pin Escapes covers seven basic body movements (counting sliding shrimps and rising shrimps separately); Solo Drills covers about two dozen movements, depending on how you divide them.
Giles: 22 minutes. Covers eleven basic body movements. Of these, the hip escape, reverse hip escape, and gongoa shoulder roll are basically the same as equivalent techniques shown by Danaher. The Bridge and the Bridge and Roll are very similar to what Danaher teaches, but each has a couple of details missing or added from what the other shows. Interestingly, on the Bridge and Roll, Giles teaches to do a side crunch toward the side you're rolling, which is exactly the opposite of what Matt Thornton teaches. I haven't had the opportunity in quarantine to try them both out and decide which one I like best.
Mount Escapes
Danaher: 2 hours, 8 minutes. As expected, it's long-winded and repetitive. He literally takes 8 minutes and 55 seconds to say “Don't put your hand on his knee unless you keep your elbow from being exposed.” Also, the chapter titles are supremely unhelpful, e.g. “Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 1” through “Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 7.” Here are my subtitles to help distinguish one from the other; more will follow in other sections:
Bridging Escape From Mounted Position (Basic Version)
Bridging Escape From Mounted Position 2 (Misdirectional Bridging)
Bridging Escape From Mounted Position 3 (Dealing with the Grapevine)
Bridging Escape From Mounted Position 4 (Dealing with Crossface Hold)
Bridging Escape From Mounted Position 5 (Bridging as Setup for Elbow Escape)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position (Basic Version)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 2 (Serpentine Motion & High Mount)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 3 (Going Directly For the Knee)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 4 (Use of Hand and Elbow)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 5 (Don't Expose Your Back)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 6 (Leg Shimmying)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position 7 (Dealing with Crossface)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position - Ankle Trap Method (Transitional Escape from Knee Drive to Mount by Turning Away)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position - Ankle Trap Method 2 (Transitional Escape from Knee Drive to Mount by Turning In)
Elbow Escape From Mounted Position - Ankle Trap Method 3 (Transitional Escape from Stepover Method)
As you can see, Danaher basically only teaches two escapes, and focuses on giving details, options, strategies, and applications of these rather than exploring other escapes.
Giles: 1 hour, 10 minutes. Giles is straightforward and concise in his explanations. Unlike Danaher, Giles shows many of his techniques in footage of actual rolls with upper belts, with a voiceover explanation, which I found quite illuminating. Content-wise, Giles covers the two major escapes Danaher covers, but in less detail. For instance, he doesn’t even touch on the “knee-down” variation of the elbow-escape that Danaher prefers. He covers the importance of inside leg position in mostly the same way Danaher does. On the other hand, he spends a significant amount of time discussing the battle for inside arm position, which Danaher seems unconcerned with. Giles also covers escapes from S-mount and includes a high-percentage escape directly to SLX. Giles covers a couple of submission escapes (cross-collar choke, americana, and armbar), whereas Danaher only addresses positional escapes.
Side Control Escapes
Danaher: 5 hours, 16 minutes. Here’s the meat of the set: five hours of side control escapes. This is what you bought the set for; admit it. You’ve always had trouble escaping side control, and you’re willing to shell out whatever Danaher asks if he can just share the secret to escaping side control. You imagine the look on that 300-lb. Bubba’s face as you slip your scrawny, pencil-necked 130-lb. frame out from under him, laughing deliriously, and scurry up his back. You imagine the admiring looks of that cute purple belt you’ve been trying to impress, as well as the satisfied nod of your coach as you see him thinking Yep, he’ll be ready for the next belt come promotion day.
So, does he deliver? You betcha. In spades. Twenty minutes into this section, my mind was blown at how little BJJ I knew. I knew the gross muscle movements, of course, but the difference was all the fine details – all of which I had been blind or oblivious to thus far. I felt like all my escapes so far were the equivalent of peering into the storefront windows of a BJJ gym, watching furious action from a distance, unable to hear or understand the significance of what was happening.
Sometimes the audio quality is poor. About 38 and a half minutes into Volume 7, a sound like a wobbly fan is heard in the background. It never prevents you from understanding what Danaher says, but it’s pretty distracting. It makes me think their mats are in a basement, and just off camera is a washing machine, surrounded by piles of dirty laundry and a big orange box of Tide detergent.
Unfortunately, although he includes escapes from north/south, knee on belly, and kuzure kesa gatame (sitout with far side underhook), and even reverse kuzure kesa gatame, he does not include any escapes from standard kesa gatame (scarf hold). I consider this a serious oversight, as anyone with a judo background is bound to use the scarf hold.
Elbow Escapes from Side Position 1 (Introduction)
Elbow Escapes from Side Position 2 (Moving His Head)
Elbow Escapes from Side Position 3 (Inserting the Knee)
Elbow Escapes from Side Position 4 (Dealing with Crossface)
Elbow Escapes from Side Position 5 (Asymetrical Bridging)
Elbow Escapes from Side Position 6 (Misc Tricks)
Elbow Escapes from Side Position 7 (Dealing with the Hip Block)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 1 (Introduction)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 2 (Beating the Crossface)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 3 (Fighting for the Underhook)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 4 (Anchoring on his Leg)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 5 (Finishing the Single Leg – Leg Hook)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 6 (Finishing the Single Leg – Elbow to the Floor)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 7 (Finishing the Single Leg – Moving Under the Sprawl)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 8 (Hand Grips)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 9 (Opponent’s Knee Position)
Knee Escapes from Side Position 10 (Putting Things Together)
Giles: 2 hours, 15 minutes. While Giles’ escapes from standard side control are certainly serviceable and effective (the frame and guard recovery and the underhook escape to knees), they didn’t wow me in the details like Danaher’s did. On the other hand, his escapes from related positions – north/south, knee on belly, and kesa gatame variations – are systems that are generally more complete than the ones Danaher presents, covering almost every variation you’ll encounter.
Back Control Escapes
Danaher: 36 minutes. Thirty-six minutes? That’s it? After spending five hours on side control escapes, you couldn’t even manage a full hour for back escapes? What happened? Did Matthias decide not to put up with the abuse your lapdog Placido was always willing to take? Or did Bernardo Faria set a hard limit of 11 hours to a set? Not even a body triangle escape? Lazy, Danaher. Lazy. And as always, the chapter titles are unhelpful. My subtitles:
Sliding Escape (Basic Version)
Sliding Escape 2 (Escape from Lapel Choke)
Sliding Escape 3 (Escaping to the Opposite Side)
Sliding Escape 4 (Preventing Face-Down Rear Mount)
Giles: 1 hour, 38 minutes. Here’s a turn-around: Giles spends nearly three times as long as Danaher on back escapes. And it’s far more comprehensive: Giles shows escapes from both the overhook side as well as the underhook side, escaping the shoulders first and escaping the hips first, including how to deal with hooks and the body triangle. Plus, Giles caps it off with some excellent rolling footage.
Turtle Escapes
Danaher: 48 minutes. Solid escapes for both one arm around the waist and the seatbelt/harness grip.
Giles: 35 minutes. Doesn’t cover the one arm around the waist situation, but makes up for it by covering turtle positions where your opponent’s got a hook in, an underhook, or two underhooks, none of which Danaher covers.
Front Headlock Escapes
Danaher: Doesn’t cover this at all. Not even on his Front Headlocks instructional. Bad Danaher. No cookie for you.
Giles: 47 minutes. Very good escapes for both chokes and attempts to take the back from the front headlock position. Thorough with important details highlighted.
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Top 10 Nikola Naysayer's Baseless Arguments. Try harder, folks.

EDIT: There are now 19 items on this list. Last updated on Sep 15, 2020.
If you’re coming from subs that are heavily anti-Nikola such as wallstreetbets and RealNikola, I hope folks there haven’t closed your mind to the point you can’t see facts when they’re presented to you. The following is meant to address baseless claims so that we can move onto legitimate concerns and questions about Nikola Corporation.
Now be prepared for some serious due diligence (DD). This will take awhile...
Before you read the items below, I suggest first watching the following videos: - Real Engineering Video (Sep 5, 2020—a great summary of Nikola’s business model) - Tesla Joy Video (Aug 24, 2020) - Tesla Daily Video (Jun 2, 2020) - TESLA Charts Podcast (Jul 19, 2020) - Autoline Network Video (Jun 11, 2020) - This Week In Startups Video (Jul 31, 2020)
1) They ripped off Tesla's name!
FACT CHECK: What does this even mean? So...don't invest or at least take a look at a company given their name? Are you telling me that the inventor Nikola Tesla licensed his name to Elon Musk? That would be a no. Did Tesla Inc. trademark Nikola? Also a hard no. The only thing this tells me is that two clean energy companies honored a great inventor...a father of modern energy. I made this baseless claim #1 on this list since there are way too many people who just can't get over the name and refuses to took deeper, or if they do look deeper, they're already blinded by hate/disgust and can't look at the company objectively.
Fun Fact: See who truly honors the great Nikola Tesla (click on the following names). Is it Tesla’s Elon Musk or Nikola founder Trevor Milton?
2) They're diluting their shares with the merger!
FACT CHECK: Nikola Motor Co. and VectoIQ are conducting a reverse merger, which will come to a shareholder vote on June 2, 2020. If you don't know what a reverse merger is, click here. VTIQ's 29.6M shares will be combined with the 320.7M private shares of existing Nikola Motor Co. Another 52.5M shares will come from VectoIQ's PIPE (see #16 below as well for those who are worried PIPE investors are about to sell their shares). VTIQ will convert to $NKLA 1:1 meaning whatever price per share VTIQ is at pre-merger will be the same price it will be post-merger. Furthermore, existing Nikola private shareholders (not VTIQ shareholders) will be under a lock up period for 6 months where they are barred from selling their shares. I wouldn't be concerned with dilution until the lock up is lifted, but even then, Nikola World 2020 would have revealed major progress with the company that I'm sure most investors will want to hold tight for the long. Trevor Milton on dilution. Read the SEC filed S-4 to learn more about the merger.
Post-Merger Edit: No signs of dilution. NKLA continues to trade above its IPO price despite all the PIPE, warrants, and employee stock options entering the market. The only remaining shares left are the 2M (max) that the Diesel Brother can earn for Badger sales.
3) They sued Tesla...a bunch of amateurs!
FACT CHECK: Here's a video of an unbiased deep dive onto the patent lawsuit, which btw, Nikola is winning and winning at the highest patent court in the country. If another company infringed on Tesla’s patents, would that be okay?
4) Trevor Milton is a fraud! He will dump his shares once the 6-month lock up is over! I don't like his face and I find him annoying and inconsistent.
FACT CHECK: Part of the agreement on the merger was for Trevor Milton to lose some shares to own up to 40% of the company. The agreement also elevated him to Executive Chairman from CEO so he wouldn’t have to run the day-to-day operations of the company and instead focus on leading the board of directors and the strategic direction of the company. All in all, institutional investors wanted to limit Trevor’s control over the company.
The CEO of Nikola is Mark Russell who has no social media presence and rarely seen, as it should be for the guy running the show. When Mark does speak, it's clear that he's the more calculated and reserved executive of the company. Comparatively, Trevor is a visionary. Those who follow him closely know he tends to speak in the future. As the Chairman of the company, he is fulfilling his job in pointing the Corporation's strategic direction.
Edit 1: A modification has been made to Trevor Milton’s lock-up clause.
Edit 2: Trevor Milton dumped 6 Million of his own shares! See...he doesn't even want the stock!
Fact Check: On Aug 26, 2020, Trevor announced that he would GIVE 6 million of his shares to the first 50 employees of Nikola. He then later announced that he would give the other 350 of his employees a total of 1 million of his own shares. Nikola haters love to spin the truth. They're so blinded by hate and disgust for Trevor and Nikola that anything he does is processed negatively.
5) Trevor Milton started two companies that went bankrupt! He’s even a college dropout!
FACT CHECK: Now we're getting into the SPIN ZONE! Get the full dose of truth in this Forbes article. You’ll find that Trevor actually started two businesses that he sold for millions of dollars.
For whatever reason, some people assume great entrepreneurs have been 100% successful in their endeavors. They couldn’t be more further from the truth.
To those who tease Trevor for being a college dropout, see this list of successful business leaders who also dropped out of college.
6) Hydrogen tech is unproven! Nikola is just vaporware!
FACT CHECK: It seems you are ill-informed of the industry. Here's hydrogen fuel cell tech use in South Korea, in California, in Germany, and in the United Kingdom, to name a few...oh, and there's Nikola's H2 fueling station at their Phoenix, Arizona HQ.
Do these videos of the Nikola Two look like vaporware to you?
  1. Video 1
  2. Video 2 The Nikola Two beer delivery with Ab inBev.
  3. Video 3 Nikola Analyst Day video (start at the 11:28 min mark)
  4. Video 4
  5. Video 5 The Nikola Two on the road.
  6. Video 6 Raw video of the Nikola Two fuel cell tech in action. Check this out to look under the hood.
  7. Video 7. The Nikola Two performing a break test.
  8. Video 8 Trevor Milton showing the Nikola Two Powertrain
To learn more about hydrogen, read this peer-reviewed study on the 20 Hydrogen Myths.
Furthermore, if you go through the Hydrogen FCEV Technology and Hydrogen Technology post flairs in this sub, you’ll find other companies vouching for FCEV tech as well to include Shell, Hyundai, BMW, Bosch, Ballard, Jaguar Land Rover, Daimler, Toyota, and Hyzon...I’m sure I’m missing others. What are all these companies missing that you see? Is it because Elon Musk said hydrogen is "fool cell"? They all must be trying to fool us I guess.
7) My shares will be $10 post-merger!
FACT CHECK: VTIQ will convert to NKLA 1:1 meaning whatever price per share VTIQ is at merger, will be the same price it will be post-merger.
Post-Merger Edit: We did not see NKLA start at $10. In fact, on Jun 4, 2020 listing day, NKLA opened at $37.55.
8) They took PPP money meant for small businesses. How dare they do that?!
FACT CHECK: Before Nikola received close to $1B from the VectoIQ merger, the company was strapped in cash and had over 300 employees and their families to care for during COVID-19. They eventually paid tax payers back as you'll hear in this clip where Trevor sets the record straight with CNBC.
9) I don't understand warrants, so this company is a fraud!
FACT CHECK: If you don't understand warrants (NKLAW), either get smart or just buy NKLA common shares. See this reference and my thoughts on NKLAW.
10) They're asking me if I want to redeem my VTIQ shares for $10.36 when I bought it at $25. This is 100% a scam!
FACT CHECK: VTIQ shareholders received messages on whether to opt into redeeming their shares by May 29, 2020. If they did, they would only receive $10.38. No one in their right mind would want to do that if the price of VTIQ is currently way over that price. Not only does this hurt you, it also hurts Nikola Corp as you would be taking cash from the merger. Read this Article. Bottom line, if you receive a message asking if you want to redeem your VTIQ shares, don’t do it. This is an option that they made available, but VectoIQ and Nikola Corp. highly suggests against redeeming your VTIQ shares.
11) Their revenue projections are fake! Anyone can preorder with $0 money down!
FACT CHECK: This article explains why preorders are $0.00. Also, read this Tweet from Trevor Milton. Moreover, go to pg. 14 on this SEC filing. Notice how the vast majority of the preorders are from legitimate institutional fleets. See this Tweet as well.
Note that Nikola has stopped taking orders for their FCEV semis since Fall 2019. They’re only taking orders for BEV semis, Badgers, NZTs, and WAVs. The $10B 14,602 preorder semis where for those FCEVs. Trolls can’t add to that number and are just wasting their time especially since Nikola runs scripts to filter out their submissions.
12) No one wanted to invest in Nikola! That's why they went public...to take your money instead! Nikola is SCAM!
FACT CHECK: Go to Pg. 10 on the prospectus. You'll find over $500M in funding from several companies prior to the merger with VectoIQ. Post-merger, Nikola’s institutional investors include Bosch (German), Hanwha (S. Korean; 6.13% ownership), CNH Industrial/Iveco (Italian; 7.11% ownership), Nel Hydrogen (Norwegian), Fidelity Management and Research Company, Inclusive Capital Spring Fund (~5.6% ownership), Black Rock, and P. Schoenfeld Asset Management LP. To doubters, what do you see that these companies fail to see? These companies fully vetted Nikola before investing in them. Nikola even received a $1.7M grant from the U.S. Department of Energy. Prior to the merger, VectoIQ’s CEO Steve Girsky, who is known for getting General Motors out of bankruptcy as their former Vice Chairman, did a top-down vetting of Nikola, Trevor Milton, the leadership team, their strategy and vision, etc. Steve is now a member of Nikola’s board of directors along with leaders from Bosch, Hanwha, Iveco, Ace Disposal, and Caterpillar's Thompson Machinery (Source). EDIT: Along with partnering with Nikola on producing the Badger, General Motors also invested ~$2B in Nikola on top of saving Nikola $4B in capex. GM undoubtedly did their homework on Nikola and on Trevor prior to this investment, which grants them ~11% stake in the company.
Furthermore, Nikola went public via a SPAC reverse merger to save time and capital going through the traditional IPO route. They wanted to go public to be completely transparent and demonstrate to investors that they aren't another WeWork company doomed for failure. The reserve merger brings about $1B in capital to kickstart their major projects (hydrogen infrastructure and factory construction). Although their stock went through a tough road during their first couple of months since listing on the NASDAQ, Nikola continues to survive and trade above their IPO price. Three months after listing, Nikola even secured a binding contract for 2,500 Nikola Refuse trucks from Republic Services worth at least a $1B and may be increased to 5K trucks ($2B max order) (Source).
For those who think Nikola is riding on the backs of retail investors, see pg. 34 of this prospectus. Retail investors own about 10% of NKLA.
Now the real questions:
Should retail investors invest in a pre-revenue company? I invested in NKLA/VTIQ for the same reason why venture capitalists (VCs) invest in pre-revenue/pre-IPO companies. The big difference is that Nikola decided to go public via a reverse mergeSPAC, which allowed retail investors to participate, thus democratizing investment in a pre-revenue company, which until recently only the very rich VCs can.
Does Nikola deserve their pre-revenue valuation? Valuation is based on investor sentiment and Nikola cannot control their stock price. Literally the last share buyer does. I came in when NKLA was still VTIQ and my valuation was based on the 14.6K FCEV pre-orders worth ~$10B to include binding contracts with Ab inBev and U.S. Xpress. We then witnessed what happened when the Nikola Refuse order with Republic Services became a binding contract. Investors decided that they were willing to come in now before the order gets fulfilled as they believe the stock price will be much higher later when the order materializes.
Lastly, senior leadership at Nikola will take no more than $1 per year in salary and will be compensated instead with stock bonuses if they meet benchmarks. This shows good stewardship of investors’ money, not add to the company's CapEx, and letting their performance dictate their compensation.
13) They’re outsourcing everything! Definitely not vertically integrated like Tesla!
FACT CHECK: Outsourcing is a misleading term. Technically, you can't outsource to a company that invests in you and/or has partnered with you. The more appropriate term is joint venture. For example, Nikola and Iveco has a 50/50 JV factory in Germany (Nikola Iveco Europe GmbH). Iveco's parent company CNH Industrial also invested $250M to Nikola in cash, goods and services. Bosch is providing the fuel cell and powertrain for the semis. They too invested heavily in Nikola. Outsourcing would imply that Nikola is the customer of a contract company and Nikola is paying them...not at all the case. Together, these companies that have invested heavily in Nikola enable vertical integration.
Fun Fact: Just as how Nikola is using another OEM to manufacture the Badger, Tesla also used another OEM to build one of their vehicles. It was their very first vehicle...the Roadster. The OEM was Lotus, but notice I said “used another OEM to build” the Roadster. I didn’t say “manufacture”. The point here is that Testa didn’t do everything themselves as Nikola haters dog the company for.
14) The cost to create hydrogen is $13/kg. That's way more than what diesel costs. No company will switch!
FACT CHECK: Nikola has dropped the cost of producing hydrogen to below $4/kg . Their hydrogen will also be made onsite, thus removing distribution requirements. Furthermore, Nikola will take advantage of both renewable energy (wind and solar) as well as cheap excess power from the grid...hours where energy companies are actually releasing energy (wasted electricity) due to grid overload during low-usage hours. They also won't be getting power within municipalities, but rather through PPA (Power Purchase Agreements) on main federal transmission lines saving them a ton of money (Source).
15) Trevor Milton sold millions of NKLA shares to buy his $32.5M ranch when Nikola has made ZERO revenue!!
FACT CHECK: First, see #4 above. Beyond these shares Trevor had to sell as part of the merger, he cannot sell the rest of his shares as they’re locked up for 6 months post-merger with VectoIQ. Furthermore, Trevor bought the ranch a year before the merger and before VectoIQ and Steve Girsky approached Nikola. Lastly, Trevor made bank from selling dHybrid to Worthington Industries. The seed money from Worthington to start Nikola was separate from Worthington's purchase of dHybrid.
16) PIPE investors are going to sell their shares! The disparity between NKLA and NKLAW will tank the stock! SELL NOW!!
FACT CHECK: Please see this piece that I wrote, which addressed this fear mongering by naysayers.
Post-Warrants Edit: NKLA continues to trade above its IPO price. The downward pressures from the warrants are now gone and none of the PIPE investors have signaled dumping their stocks.
17) The Badger is just a GM EV rebadging of the Silverado. 100% GM technology with a Nikola badge! I can't believe Nikola gave GM 11% stake of their company for this!
FACT CHECK: The Badger will utilize GM's powertrain (Ultium battery tech and Hydrotec fuel cell stack technology), but the rest of the truck is Nikola's IP/design. Furthermore, the two existing prototype Badgers were completely made by Nikola without GM's help and will be revealed during Nikola World 2020. GM will then engineer their tech with Nikola's tech/design, test, validate, and manufacture the pickup truck. See this Tweet from Trevor:
>Nikola to share hardware like ASILD Inverters, batteries and other validated parts. Nikola will always own; the brand, cab, chassis modifications, infotainment, controls, OTA, sales, service and warranty & customer interaction. GM to help us build it to last and cut cost.
This interview explains a lot more about the partnership between Nikola and GM. I also encourage you to read the 8-K filing. It’s not that long of a read and shows what’s part of this deal beyond just the Badger, which justifies the 11% stake.
The partnership with GM on the Badger is also only good for 6 years. After that, Nikola would be free to manufacture the Badger themselves once they have a factory and the capital to do so by then. Their next-gen battery would surely be ready by then as well.
18) Nikola's Director of Hydrogen Production/Infrastructure is Trevor Milton's brother who was just your average joe construction worker, You've got to be kidding me!
FACT CHECK: Trevor's brother Travis Milton is Nikola’s Director of Hydrogen Production/Infrastructure; however he doesn’t have to know much about hydrogen technology to do what he does as Nikola hydrogen supplier is Nel Hydrogen. I assume his role is to find industry experts, such as Nel, and oversee Nikola’s contracts with them. Furthermore, there’s actually other hydrogen-related executives in the company (see pg. 16 of this prospectus presentation filed with the SEC). You have Dale Prows as Head of Hydrogen Supply Chain and Livio Gambone as Head of Hydrogen Storage. Also, check out these recent hires. They added Pablo Koziner, who came from and was an executive at Caterpillar, to be the Nikola Energy President overseeing stations and energy.
19) Nikola faked the Nikola One video...LMAO! They even admitted to it!
FACT CHECK: Yes, the Nikola One in this 2018 video did not drive in its own propulsion, hence the title "Nikola One Electric Semi Truck in Motion". The allegation is that Nikola fooled its investors. The truth of the matter is that Nikola's investors at the time were private investors as Nikola was still a pre-IPO company (Nikola Motor Company), to include Bosch and Nel. In Nikola's own words, "Nikola investors who invested during this period, in which the Company was privately held, knew the technical capability of the Nikola One at the time of their investment." Furthermore, Nikola's strategic partners have come out in support of the company after shorter Hindenburg Research's desperate hit-job article to support their short position after the GM partnership announcement that sent NKLA up ~50%. Moreover, NKLA investors find this hit-piece irrelevant as what matters now is what Nikola already has (working prototypes as seen on #6 above, strategic partners as listed on #12 above, 800 binding orders for FCEV Nikola semis from Ab inBEv and 2,500-5,000 binding orders for the Nikola Refuse by Republic Services) and what's to come (strategic partnership announcement on building out fueling stations, Badger reservation numbers, Nikola World 2020, and potentially more major binding contracts).

Now that we’ve gotten the baseless arguments out of the way (and I’ll continue to add to them when necessary), I encourage you to go through NikolaCorporation and read through the DD that have already been and continue to be shared. Filter topics by post flairs to find info you’re interested in.
Cheers,
KaiserCyber
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Toeing the line of mental retardation

Listen up because I'm going to help all of you make money. I've come to the conclusion that making profit on the market requires you to straddle a very fine line between mental retardation and the average IQ of the typical frontpage reddit commentor. If you've browsed the front page you'll know there is a very small gap between the two. Go too far on either side of the spectrum and you'll lose money. Maintain balance and you'll maintain profits.
TA is trash, DD is gay. Yesterday I read some guys DD on REV and how they were the worst thing ever. Even though I'm too stupid to understand what he was saying, I'm smart enough to understand how detailed it was. Balanced. As you can expect even after so much research the autist lost money. Coincedence? I think not.
The game is rigged boys, try to outsmart it and you'll get burned. "but mUh The Big Short", yea retard pretty sure that was fiction, just a fairy tale. I'm not even sure what that was about, but it was a hella good comedy. Consider this, maybe the retards who screeched about tesla 420 calls aren't so retarded, while the "financial expert" who wasted away the last 2 weeks staring at financial reports and graphs while simultaneously losing money daily is the retard. Quite ironic isn't it.
"Hur Dur star wars do bad, didney do bad" is maybe all the DD you need. Some idiot who didn't even know what a call or put was profitted last week practically just buying options clicking on random shit. This fine line of literally drooling on yourself and spending more than 15 mins doing research is achievable, it just takes dedication. Do yourself a favor, bang your head against the wall for a couple hours and recalculate your strategy. Come Monday you'll be rolling in tendies.
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Cull, The Great Population-

I've been working intermittently on this essay for several months, so no surprise it's chaotic. There is plenty more yet to find, or were left out, so no surprise if there are sequels.
Culling | wkpd (action) is a special case of parse, and segregate, wherein a selection is removed after sussing it out. See also Selection Theory 1, and selection search 2.
Plan B readers: For Plan A, scroll down here.
search this title with the current Plandemic Psy-Op, this is a hot topic; here are a few top links which I've sifted thru...
The Great Culling has begun: Will your genetic lineage survive? 2012 | ntrlnws
repost, illustrated (hngdbnkrs)
Current event summary by "Radix Verum" (root truth) A “Smart Virus”: Evidence Elites Plan to Cull Human Population Mar.16.2020 | ptrtspbx
Spontaneous Causes
Unforeseen consequences of Industrial Revolution and economic development
Cull of the Wild
Agricultural employment: has the decline ended?
Urbanization and Wealth Call to a Waning of Family Life
We don't need so many 'farm-hands' anymore, we've got the Reaper, (not the Scythe).
11 Women Share Why They Don’t Want To Get Married Oct.2019
Why is it the Way of the World that White Women Are So Woke? (they go bonkers, serious trouble) 35 min
contrasting K strategies 19:12 religiousness collapsed in Western countries from 1960s onwards (rise of secularism, Marxism)
Trending away from Tradition
Abandonment of Family Values (it's the Children, not the money)
A National Tragedy, Chinese Children Abandoned 2016 27 min China is a SOCIALIST STATE, which values government power, not its citizens
12:13 "he'd realize that his kids are great, they're not the burden he'd imagined, and it's worth a few hundred yuan to make a trip home. I just want parents to know their children are precious." - volunteer social worker Pan Ya Yun (7:40 +) note link to wealth-related video at end
Annie sings Maybe (I got parents)
Women are trying to escape Saudi Arabia, 41 min
G Hardin: Stalking the Wild Taboo 3rd ed. 1972 29pg.pdf
Beyond some undetermined, but not large, number the stimulation people give each other becomes more irritating and inhibiting than mind-expanding. (p. 5)
Pareto Principle Applied to Human Population
About a fifth of the people are far more significant than the 4-fifths, in nearly every way. This seems to be a natural phenomenon. (Implication is that Christian sacred reverence for life is not justified from a cultural perspective. It might be a traditional remnant of small nomadic clans. Selective culling would be more eugenic, thus more competitive. Nomadic livestock herders have done this since prehistoric times. (This need not be done in a cruel way. However, any policy that makes life easy for poor people is dysgenic. What's better would be finding ways to get rid of them. Counter argument that some people are poor due to chance, is get rid of them anyway, for being both poor and unlucky.)
80/20 Rule for techies (index) | scidir
Improving National Prestige, per capita statistics by reducing population (reduce common denominator, the ratio increases)
Longevity applies to individuals and to kinship groups, in that living long (sustaining healthy life) is commonly valued by persons, and by clans; it's called "evolutionary psychology".
Both history and DNA studies have revealed that human societies arose and fell, depending on many factors, but the important thing is, survivors made plenty of efforts to stay survived, while the less energetic were crushed or merged into oblivion. Thus raw nature may seem without purpose, but there is this: survival defines success. Survival IS life's purpose. Humans may be irrelevant to the whole universe, but our special place on earth is not the entirety... a sea of stars
For the person, sustaining health has proven to be a result of a few stratagems requiring discipline. Similarly, sustaining a clan requires discipline known as Eugenics (keeping good genes, or dumping bad ones, or both. Dysgenics | wkpd is acting to a society's counter-purposes. See also Dysgenics | metapd
Population Studies
K selection theory
Eugenics practices of the Jews Review of John Glad’s “Jewish Eugenics” 2011 | OO
u\acloudrift has a divergence from many population discussions (especially the famous overpopulation scam popular with globalists) per the concept of "capacity limit" (Kapazitätsgrenze). Globalists insist there is a finite limit on populations due to finite quantities of resources like matter and energy. My divergence says they are not allowing for intellectual advancement, an infinite resource. As time goes on, human culture finds new ways and means, and there is probably no end to this, see Beginning of Infinity by D Deutsch Also, keep in mind the concept that the meaning of "human population" can change too. Even the concepts of time and space can change. create new space from existing space stretching time with virtual artificial life
Women are by nature limited to K-type reproduction, while exceptional men have the ability to attain a hyper-successful r-type strategy. Think of it as the happenstance option, occurring in royalty, in which there may be many concubines, or rape, like the cases of Genghis Khan, or the Red Army, having a superfluity of females available in a defeated society. Of course, non-exceptional men have a higher chance of zero reproductive success. For men, sustainability is more of a gamble than for women, who have a high chance of having offspring, if they want to try it. Reproduction is their bailiwick.
Fertility rate, world (illustrated) Pre-Industrial Families
Therefore, logic suggests preference for girl children for clan stability. Any preference for boy children (per female infanticide) would indicate a preference for honor (high prestige, which has enhanced choice of females as a benefit). Going for honor over reliability is a gamble (seeking small chance for big win).
Plan A; Culling Tails, a bell-curve de-squeeze.
Cull criteria: (1) status, productivity, amount and type (income or wealth, and means), and (2) having sponsoring entities who both qualify to stay (and take responsibility for support of deportee "candidate", being mostly children and dependent parents), either may qualify.
Plan C: Taking out the Rightail (Cull original, 'take out the virtual trash'; trash in this case meaning hazardous to social health, virtual meaning calculated with close scrutiny and fancy math, a derived scale of social virtue.)
Plan D: Plan C lite (failing to remove, well then just publicize and ostracize, see Social Virtue Scale)
Health Issues
Modern Life has stress without release mechanisms
TrthFct Men's potency issues 7 min
Fight or Flight Complex
Cortisol (stress hormone) Disconnection: Stress vs Longevity
4 Major Stress Hormones 2017 | psy
Estrogen Reduces High Levels of Oxidative Stress 2008 | MDndia
How to Reduce Cortisol, the Stress Hormone Nov.6.2019 | bbrnft
Contra-indication: Estrogen Involved, Stress Response 2003 | wbMD
A CUP A DAY (of recipe)...CLEAR CLOGGED ARTERIES, HEART - Dr Alan Mandell, DC 6 min
Longevity & Why I now eat One Meal a Day 16 min
Longevity, Sex Factors
Subversive Causes
Inter-group competition has produced covert genocidal programs
Non-Spontaneous (planned) Causes (notice this word is plural noun and present tense verb)
Depopulation conspiracy theory (sarcasm)
WHO's behind it? (double entendre) World-Mandarins
civil servant, often in a satirical context, (e.g. as in the titles of such works as The Mandarins by Simone de Beauvoir, Chomsky's American Power and the New Mandarins, etc.)
Libel-Label: the 'World-Mandarins' is intended as a funny name for an otherwise shadowy group who prefer to remain obscure, so they intentionally deny any name. Which is also appropriate because this group has no public organizational structure, similar to an Amoeba, it can squeeze into and out of public places.
world’s real puppetmasters 2016
JFK's secret society speech
Committee of 300, 2013 | mdchkr
Who: a 0.1% elite persons (vs the 99.9% common persons) smart, but Machiavellian hidden "Masters of the Universe" who pull the puppet strings of "the powers that be" (aka TPTB)
What: Our World is not to their liking yet, they endeavor to fix it (aka Tikkun olam). One of the Mandarins' prescriptions (Rx) is to get our world rid of most of the 99.9%, the medicine is marked (skull & bones). Medicine tastes bad, so they sweeten it with hoaxes and their favorite is FEAR. So there must be bogeymen, demons, witches, Satan, etc. Because they don't want anyone else to think there is a Garden (a 2011 wikiwar story) available here on Earth, but only in the hereafter, aka The Void today, not tomorrow. See also skull & bones.
Bill Gates declaring (world) is overpopulated —and was an overpopulation declaration Gates near immediately followed with his grim warning of millions of soon to come deaths and his stating: “The world needs to prepare for pandemics just like war”.
trth factry Apr.3 abuse, trafficking of children, Jewish activism as middlemen, MK ULTRA
The Great Unpatterning Continues. Make Sure You Take Advantage Of It Mar.12
GLOBAL ELITES CAUGHT PLOTTING THE ISLAMIC INVASION OF EUROPE OCT.2015
Overview of Great Cull operations BIOWEAPON UNLEASHED per RD Steele, SGTrpt 35 min very interesting interview, esp. if you include the necessary grain of salt; show closes with prediction by H Kissinger: "Palestine will be restored to the Palestinians by 2022," and THAT is going to change the world. (IOW Israel is goin' down, folks.) SGT per bitchute
CORONAVIRUS UPDATE! Will the Chinese Communist Party COLLAPSE? 9 min
Chinese Communist Party Struggles to Contain the Coronavirus Fallout
X22 reports Corona virus is not serious illness, but may be a cover for elimination of certain persons; CV narrative begins 18:00; total run time 28 min
COVID19 Scamdemic reveals BigPharma's takeover attempt Apr.2020
virus epidemic a cull of old folks?
Trump DEFEATED in 2020 by #WuFlu Black Swan Event? Feb.2020 10 min | BPS
#WuFlu Corona Chan C-chan meme How a Pandemic could END CIVILIZATION 10 min
5+ NWO Agendas Accompanying the Coronavirus Epidemic Mar.4.2020
Coronavirus 5G Connection and Coverup Feb.17
Experts Fear 'Suicide Wave' As The Social Fabric Of America Becomes "Unstitched" Tyler Durden Apr.3.2020
Silent War against children
21 Harsh Truths Black People Don't Want to Hear
Culture War?: Bring Back Un-American Activities surveillance!
Rise of the Frankfart School (like esophageal reverse peristalsis, brings a taste of bile)
Heather MacDonald: The Diversity Delusion 68 min
Culture War Redux (mucking postmodernism!)
There was a time in America when virtually all intellectual activity was derived in one way or another from the Communist Party… resulting in a disastrous vulgarization of intellectual life, in which the character of American liberalism and radicalism was decisively – and perhaps permanently – corrupted. —Robert Warshow (1947); The Immediate Experience: Movies, Comics, Theatre and Popular Culture (NY Dbldy&Co, 1962), p. 33
"virtue, the arts and humanities were permanently interconnected, and that Americans should act accordingly" —G Washington
Our nation was founded on the ideals and rights promoted by the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution and those principles evolved through the growth of American culture... "Throughout our history, American culture has been fueled by creative anti-establishment energy. But that spirit of rebellion found a counterbalance in deeply rooted respect for traditional values, in a taste for direct storytelling and humor, and in community and civic pride. We have a healthy skepticism of officialdom, and any attempt to engineer much-needed changes in the arts through dogma and censorship will fail. But cultural institutions and the government can support and foster the individuals and groups that, for the last few decades, have worked to reclaim skills, communicate with an aesthetically engaged public, and promote beautiful and meaningful public spaces. In the best American tradition, that enterprise should encompass both the fine arts and pop culture – a powerful antidote to totalitarian agendas." –James F Cooper (artist)
Sad but true, modernist freedom of expression often plays to natural human weaknesses, while a virtuous life requires discipline (strength). Young people are especially vulnerable to influence attempts to drag them into unhealthy modalities (ex. sex, drugs, violence, incivility, etc.). Various vices are regulated by law to minimum ages (eg. alcohol, tobacco, driving, voting, military service, etc.), other socially degenerate influences should be too.
The Cosmopolitan Ethos promotes modalities like that to subvert the 'host' culture. That systematic degenerative interventionism is motivated by a cultural hate ideology to keep the Cosmopolitans voluntarily segregated from their cultural (Goy) environment.
Raising Kitsch to Legitimacy (subversion of traditional aesthetic)
Raising Pornography to ubiquity (subversion of traditional sex mores)
Raising Ignorance to a scholastic goal (subversion of traditional education)
Raising Foreign Wars to a default policy (subversion of practical stability and peace)
Classical Causes of Depopulation
(Hot) War, Famine, Plague
War: the Great Male Gender Expender
Men Are the Expendable Gender | tvtrp
Why war evolved to be a man’s game – and why that’s only now changing (computer models) 2018
For the Love of doG
Shout Have Auk! Unleash the Gods of War
Great War Europe diminished quality men's population
quoting Genghis Khan
Equality for women: death in war
List of famines
List of Plagues
Demographics and Fate
Immigration and differential reproduction rates for various races of women allow demographers to make pretty-good predictions for the ways populations will trend according to race (don't forget evolution is a race, LoL).
Here in USA, many on the political right are concerned about losing their majority demographic segment and since non-whites lean much more left (they like socialism, due to government hand-outs), the white right is worried about being robbed and encroached upon in other ways by coercive socialist tyrannies. (Socialist Trannies too.)
Here are a few words to help cheer up those who are worried like those majority-now-to-become-minority-later white folks. Just because you are outnumbered, does not mean you don't count. Look at what the Jews have done. They are about 2% of the population, but they control all the most important parts (and the most degenerate parts too) of our economy, media and government.
Minority whites can learn from the Jews, to be more community active, concentrate more on "what's good for whitey", and much less on sympathy for the down-on-their-(p)luck losers. (Kick 'em out.)
End of White America Is Now Assured PCR
hegemonic discourse (plaintiff, currently PC) vs individual and tribe (defendant, local discourse) absolvo: segregation results in no conflict of interest; Venn Diagrams have no intersection Part of the problem of conflict is PC has no tolerance, no humor, has a tyrant's demand for orthodoxy
Example Medieval Europe was dominated by Roman Catholic Church (hegemon), results are called Dark Ages, for several reasons, including lack of creativity in arts except those limited to Church, poor historical coverage, illiteracy, violence common, travel dangerous, focus on defensive fortifications instead of trade, etc.
Overpopulation Contrarian
Premise: Overpopulation is an over-hyped meme. NOT saying it's fake, just exaggerated because the truth is, the representation of it is way-biased by wealthy elites with big "megaphones" (media influence).
Exhibit 1 Overcrowding vs Underexploited Spaces
Having done considerable air travel above remote areas, and civilized ones too, I've noticed that from the aerial perspective, earth is sparsely inhabited. This is not exaggeration, it's true. Prove it for yourself, fly over the planet in Google Earth.
Humans have overcrowded themselves by going urban in droves, I suspect it's because of the two-sided problem of need for close proximity to a large population to augment economic exchanges, and limitations due to transportation (of the physical body). As Internet use grows, the need to be present in the flesh will decline, and a more dispersed population will develop of its own accord, because crowding is a bummer (see next link set).
Fraarming the Debate, Collective vs Individual
Public vs Private: A Short History of Enclosure in Britain
If degradation results from non-management and collapse can be averted by sound management, then there can be no "remorseless logic" leading to inevitable "ruin". Nor is there any reason why a private property regime (particularly an unjust one) should necessarily be preferable to the alternative of maintaining sound management of a commonly owned resource.
Note: Your author (me) is an 'equality' denier, that is all claims from Progressive Left (should be left behind) because inequality is an easily proven state of nature, and Mother Nature has a tendency to crush all her disre-specters (see study notes on Lucifer Principle).
Of the Commons: Top-Down Regulation proven inferior to Bottom-Up cooperation
Without moral resistance, a few private entities become inordinately powerful, that's natural probability at work.
Regulating against Human Nature (which the Progressives deb-hate) is a Sisyphean Labor, ipso facto the Progressive assumption that human nature can and should be reprogrammed is a mistake.
Demonstration that poor management is due to ignorance of what works... Voluntary Birth Control (eg. Bangladesh) vs Gov regulated version (eg. China 1-child policy)
Crowdfears
Territorial Imperative by R Ardrey 1966 | wkpd
Spouting Progressive Hypo Crazy, a 10
BL00MBERG'S Fortunate Tragedy Timing wwg1wga 30 min
escaping tunnels (NYC 5:5, pier 90) to be continued
Related: [Alternative Recycling 1](work in process)
Crow Ding Deniers
CROWDING AND BEHAVIOR by J L Freedman 1975 | Kirkus Reviews
THE CROWDING SYNDROME: Learning to Live with Too Much and Too Many by C Bird 1976 | Kirkus Reviews
study notes
farmers turn dry scrub into lush pasture with introduction of grazing animals
Lucifer Principle by H Bloom, Book Reviews
Anatoly Karlin | selfblog Francis Fukuyama | FA/CFR JMG van der Dennen | GroningenU Theodore A Green | trthwylf
Why is Western Society Toxic? 2017
Henry Makow's blog
Call to Redux Un-American Activities
Un-American Activities
religious affiliation a major trope of India
Hindu vs Muslim and the segregation of Victorian India
Hindu Group Calls for Forceful Expulsion of Christians from India 2018
https://www.reddit.com/overpopulation/comments/d1af8t/10_conventional_ideas_on_population_control_me/
Truth Factory YouTube channel
ID control
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=a+powerful+antidote+to+totalitarian+agendas.%22+%E2%80%93James+F+Cooper+(artist)&t=h_&ia=web
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Re-defining Upside + Late Round Strategy (long-ish read)

Re-Defining “Upside” + Late Round Strategy
(This post refers to total value for redraft roto leagues, and less so for dynasty, h2h, or points formats)
Drafting well in the late rounds in any format can be a huge factor in winning, or at the least competing well in your league.
A common strategy for late round drafting is to go for “upside”. If player x doesn't pan out you drop and move on, didn't cost you much anyway. But if they hit you have a potential top 100 / top 50 or more player - ala Siakam last year, or Donnie Mitchell the year before, etc etc.
This is usually how I draft, and what I target every year. Upside. But what does it really mean?
This year, I'm reconsidering the term “upside” as it relates to our perception of players, their outlook, and finding the value in the later rounds of drafts.
As a general rule, most people tend to consider youth a large factor in determining a player’s upside. A young player is more likely to make jumps in their game and are likely to improve and get better, especially if we’ve seen flashes of it.
But each year, we see young players and breakout candidates fall flat, regress, or simply fail to meet our gaudy expectations. Some of these young players are on such massive hype trains that you really have to reach if you want them, at which point it’s almost impossible to get a real return on value.
So while most of the league is zigging, looking for upside in youth, what if we zagged instead? What if, instead of reaching or gambling for younger upside plays late, what if we just went with boring picks from the mid rounds onward (or the entire draft)? You probably wouldn’t be on…board. Hell, I wouldn’t be on board! I love “upside”! But it turns out my definition of “upside” is wrong, or at the least, skewed. Because what if these “boring” picks turned out to have massive hidden “upside” in total value? Because isn’t that the objective? To get the most value out of each pick, sexy names and fun times be dammed?
What if we thought of upside in terms of pure value, and took out most of the risk, by drafting players who we already know are near-locks to produce similar stats in similar roles…players who we think will stay healthy and play a lot of games, yet who will be overlooked in nearly every single draft you do.
To illustrate the importance of this later round strategy…say you're filling out your last roster spots with PJ Tucker and DJ Augustin (who are, surprise, both top 100 in total value last year but are deemed to have no “upside”), and perhaps a Rudy Gay or Marvin Williams, while other teams are filling out their roster with young "upside" or more "exciting" players with a “high ceiling” like Markelle Fultz, Zaire Smith, Michael Porter Jr, Kevin Knox, and Jalen Brown (who was a negative in pretty much every category and finished well outside the top 100). The reality is that a lot of these players have huge negatives that drag their value outside the top 150 and sometimes outside the top 200. Rookies have an even lower success rate in their first year, and often don’t play because they still suck at real NBA basketball.
So you take the same roster spots, except you're rostering 4-5 top 100 players in totals at the end of your bench, while your opponents are rostering 4-5 players outside the top 150-200 in some cases. While I said this is more important in roto, it still might apply even more so in H2H, when their player is putting up negative value, and your boring guys are just cruising along, chipping in that extra 15 assists, or 12 threes, or 20 reb, or 20 assists in a given week. You already know the slim margins in H2H so in reality this theory could win you categories throughout the year and push you into the playoffs or further, all because you took PJ Tucker at pick 150 instead of mystery upside player X who doesn’t crack 20 min/night. Now I’m not fully against upside players, in fact I would tend to take a shot for someone like Anfernee Simons late, but for this strategy PJ Tucker is a better, safer pick, and actually has a higher percentage to outplay his draft position by a large amount than Simons does. Simon is risky in that his minutes are uncertain and capped, he’s still young, and hasn’t shown great creation / passing yet. We don’t quite know if he can compete consistently on a nightly basis in the NBA and have his game translate into production, let alone get enough minutes to do so. But PJ is almost guaranteed to post a similar line to last year, which was top 50! There is almost zero downside. If you’re trying to win, who do you take?
So, without further ado, here are some players who are usually old, boring, mostly ignored to some degree, most of whom can be drafted very late, but all of whom finished in the top 100 in total value, oftentimes much, much higher than you might expect. I compare these picks to the small, unseen, no-glory, high IQ basketball plays that contribute to winning basketball.
  1. Al Horford (34). He doesn't really apply to this list in terms of late round picks, but I do want to point out that Horford finished #34 in totals last year, and was 40, 38, 12, and 11 the previous 4 seasons. I feel like he is usually drafted from around the 5th-8th round range, with the perception that he is old and doesn't score a ton. Lots of potential value here, so I listed him.
  2. Thad Young (41). Surprise surprise. Here's where it starts to get interesting. This is the highest ranked player in totals last year in relation to his draft position this year. Why? He's on the Bulls now and isn't starting, is old and boring, etc etc. His real negative though is the lack of 3’s. With these negative perceptions, where do you think he's getting drafted this year? Well outside top 100. The reality is that there is still a ton of backup minutes available in the front court, and Thad will probably still get between 24-30 min / night. Not to mention the lack of stellar health from Lauri and WCJ may also open up bigger minutes during the season. He won't finish 41 in totals again, but top 75 isn't out of the question and seems as safe of a bet as any among late round players.
  3. Jerami Grant (48). He’ll probably go inside the top 100, but many people view the trade to Denver as a hit to his value. He probably won’t play over 30 minutes / night again, but his low volume, high efficiency game will add up in totals for the year, as he could come close to another 100 threes and 100 blocks… There is a chance he slips outside the top 100, and would be excellent value there. I’m not expecting top 50, but wouldn’t be surprised with top 75-80.
  4. PJ Tucker (50). My #1 target for late round value, he’s another player no one wants to pick anywhere near the top 100, and you might be able to get him past pick 150 in some drafts. Doesn't score much, but that helps to negate his low FG. Basically here's the deal. The Rockets have no depth, and PJ Tucker is the best damn role player they have, and will once again finish in the top 10 in minutes played in the entire league. He's just too important on that team, in that system. Big minutes = lots of 3's, boards, and steals, and another top 50 / top 75 finish in totals. The only downside to Tucker is similar to Thad’s…if his steal rate drops he obviously loses value. I think with the high minutes he can eek out one more year of elite production there.
  5. Marcus Smart (51). Another player who doesn't score but contributes across the board, and is usually drafted outside the top 100 (mostly because his value was outside the top 100 until this past year). His role is secure, his minutes are secure, and it's possible the improvements he made last year in shooting efficiency (a whopping 6% FG jump) stay and keep him around the 41% FG 79% FT range.
  6. Danny Green (54). Somehow Danny Green played 80 games last year and had a huge resurgence, shooting an amazing 46% and draining 2.5 threes / game. I don't think the FG is quite sustainable, and I don’t think he shoots 45% on threes again, or could he? He’s been over 41% on threes for most of his career, so even a slight regression wouldn’t be too bad. Or will Lebron lift his value as a better playmaker than anyone he’s ever played with? Either way he's another one that will likely be around well past pick 100, could still easily finish in the top 100 or higher, and is a great option if you need 3's late. He did finish on average around 125 in totals the previous 3 years, which isn’t great, but seems like a very safe floor if he puts up a bad year, but I'm betting on a decent year and closer to the 80-100 range, with top 50 “upside”. Would make sense anywhere past pick 120, but might be hard to get a bargain on him after his big year last year.
  7. Serge Ibaka (56). No longer a sexy early round pick, he's been all but thrown by the wayside. Truth is he's one of the most elite shooters in all of basketball and is an all-star in his role, a vital one in the Raptors championship run. He’s as close to a lock for 75-78 games a year and I would expect another similar season as he splits minutes with Gasol. You could probably take Ibaka around pick 140 or later, and get another top 100 season in totals, with top 60 “upside”.
  8. Terence Ross (61). Same role as last year. Magic need outside scoring. Enter Ross. High usage 3 point chucker off the bench, often plays big minutes in the 4th quarter to finish games. Drafted outside the top 100. Was 10th in total 3 pointers last year. I am going to say he’s a safe bet to finish top 100 again.
  9. Larry Nance (70). Positive in 4 cats - Reb, Stl, FG, TO. Uncertainty around his role, minutes, the new coaches / system, his low scoring output, all probably have him going outside top 100. Kind of needs some injuries or roster moves to fully unlock value, but can still be valuable in limited minutes. He’ll likely be a forgotten big that you can snag at a bargain much later…but not as late as the next guy on our list.
  10. Willy Cauley-Stein (71). Somehow, someway, WCS was ranked 71. He played in 81 games. He likely gets over 20 min / night in Golden State, but not the 27 min / night last year, so I'm hesitant to list him here. He's a player I never draft because of his lack of blocks, but he contributed positively in 5 cats, and is an option as a later round flyer that could return better value than reaching for the more hyped Looney in the top 100 or higher.
11.Dwayne Dedmon (75). The question is, can he get enough playing time with Giles, Bagley, and Holmes on the team? Don’t let that question hold you back. It’s amazing that he did his damage last year on just 25 min / night, on 64 games played, battling various injuries. I bet, with Walton wanting to fire 3's and push the pace, Dedmon being the only stretch 5 on the team (compared to Giles and Holmes), he easily gets to 24 min/night and finishes top 75 in total value again. An excellent target later, instead of reaching for WCJ, Bam, or Bagley much earlier in drafts. Would you rather have a 1/1/1 Dedmon on good % at pick 110 or Wendell Carter Jr at pick 60? I’ll take Dedmon and I’ll be he finishes higher.
12.Marvin Williams (80) + Nic Batum (84). They both played in 75 games each, and were somehow un-rosterable for parts of the year, but somehow finished top 100 in totals. What. The. Hell. There is a huge, gaping void in Charlotte that everyone assumes Rozier will plug, Bridges will improve, Bacon time, Malik Monk, etc etc. But what if, what if, the veterans that have been around and have played big minutes for years upon years, still play big minutes? Did you know Williams played 28 min / night and Batum still somehow played over 31 minutes a night! I know he's a risk to lose playing time and play under 30 min / night for the first time in his career, but if his absolute worst season is 9 points, 5 reb, 3 last, 1.5 threes, 1 steal? While some dummy is taking Michael Porter Jr (kidding!), you just sit back and take either of these studs with your last pick and cruise to another top 100 finish. That's value!
13.Rudy Gay (87) - The Spurs added Carroll and have a plethora of guards, so its possible he loses some playing time. But even last year, somehow with all that competition for minutes he still carved out 26/night and was one of the most efficient shooters last year. He probably won't shoot 50% again, but 47% FG and 84% FT are attainable. Slept on after a few injured/down years, he’s even older, un-hyped, no one really wants to reach on this guy earlier than they should...I'm betting he has one more pretty decent year in him, so I'd say he’s a target around pick 120-140 if he's available.
  1. Monte Morris (89) He's proven that he can be a solid backup point guard and eventual starter in this league. The role is consistent. For the moment he's somewhat boring stuck behind Murray, which means he definitely qualifies for our list! He’ll provide undervalued, consistent, steady production all year long.
15.DJ Augustin (91). One of the most reliable late round point guards there is. Boring? He is anything but. I see an underrated veteran capable of taking over games in the 4th quarter when his team needs offense, will make the right dribble, the right pass, sink the right shot, get to the foul line and shoot 86%. He's limited in real life because of his lack of size and defense, but in fantasy he's a solid source of consistent assists, threes, FT, and points, who doesn't hurt your FG. He’s probably as safe as they come, barring the Magic making a move and trading for CP3. Bottom line, he’s one of the safest late round value picks in the draft. After people go for the sexier FVV, Rubio, Delon Wright, Rozier, Gary Harris, Wiggins, and in some cases even Tyus Jones, Culver, Garland, Sexton, and other rookies, you just sit back and take good ole DJ Augustin after them, and stamp your top 100 seal of approval.
16.Patrick Beverley (99) - Last year he was a positive in 7 categories. Last 3 months he was 57th in per game, 40th in totals. What gives me pause is that he has a long injury history and probably won't play in 78 games like he did last year, but can likely squeeze out close to 70. Where will he be drafted? Not at 99. I'd say in the 110-120 range or even later, depending on the league. Where will he finish? Higher than that, and it's possible if he stays healthy that he finishes higher than SGA, who seems to be going around the top 50 or 60 in drafts. So after people have drafted NAW, Coby White, or Jaxson Hayes around the same area, you laugh, crack a beer, chill, and take Pat Bev instead. While their players are riding the pine buried in the rotation, you’re posting top 100, potential top 50 value.
Honorable Mentions that I think can repeat or improve - Thomas Satoransky (100), Dwight Powell (102), Reggie Jackson (107), Jordan Clarkson (111), Bryn Forbes (115), Mason Plumlee (119).
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MAME 0.207

MAME 0.207

It’s almost the end of February, and more importantly it’s time for MAME 0.207 to be released! We’ve added two Nintendo Game & Watch titles this month: Fire (wide screen) and Snoopy Tennis. If you’re at all interested in plug-and-play TV games, this is going to be a huge update, with all the newly-supported JAKKS Pacific titles, including Disney Princess, Dragon Ball Z, Nicktoons, Spider-Man, and Wheel of Fortune, as well as a number of matching Game-Keys. The other big batch of additions this month comes in the form of a whole lot of e-kara cartridge dumps from Japan. For younger players, we’re steadily filling out the V.Smile software list, with eighteen newly supported titles. The VGM software list has been updated with the latest video game music rips, and we’ve added some more original floppy dumps and clean cracks to the Apple II software lists.
With the latest improvements to the MIPS R4000 CPU, WD33C93 SCSI and SGI Newport graphics emulation, it’s possible to install and run IRIX in MAME. This is a milestone achievement, and wouldn’t have been possible without some amazing dedication and collaboration on the part of the contributors and team members involved. With the addition of graphics and mouse support, Windows 1.0 runs on MAME’s Tandy 2000 emulation. MAME continues to add additional variants of supported systems, including the HP 9825T and the Esselte Modulab educational system.
Newly supported arcade games include an earlier prototype of Rise of the Robots, bootlegs of Ghost Chaser Densei and The Glob, and additional versions of Raiden Fighters 2, Guardian Storm, Pasha Pasha Champ, Lethal Enforcers, and X-Men. General usability improvements include friendlier Apple II disassembly, the restoration of key map support in SDL builds (Linux/macOS), and better initial window positioning on Windows.
You can get the source and Windows binary packages from the download page.

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MAME 0.207

MAME 0.207

It’s almost the end of February, and more importantly it’s time for MAME 0.207 to be released! We’ve added two Nintendo Game & Watch titles this month: Fire (wide screen) and Snoopy Tennis. If you’re at all interested in plug-and-play TV games, this is going to be a huge update, with all the newly-supported JAKKS Pacific titles, including Disney Princess, Dragon Ball Z, Nicktoons, Spider-Man, and Wheel of Fortune, as well as a number of matching Game-Keys. The other big batch of additions this month comes in the form of a whole lot of e-kara cartridge dumps from Japan. For younger players, we’re steadily filling out the V.Smile software list, with eighteen newly supported titles. The VGM software list has been updated with the latest video game music rips, and we’ve added some more original floppy dumps and clean cracks to the Apple II software lists.
With the latest improvements to the MIPS R4000 CPU, WD33C93 SCSI and SGI Newport graphics emulation, it’s possible to install and run IRIX in MAME. This is a milestone achievement, and wouldn’t have been possible without some amazing dedication and collaboration on the part of the contributors and team members involved. With the addition of graphics and mouse support, Windows 1.0 runs on MAME’s Tandy 2000 emulation. MAME continues to add additional variants of supported systems, including the HP 9825T and the Esselte Modulab educational system.
Newly supported arcade games include an earlier prototype of Rise of the Robots, bootlegs of Ghost Chaser Densei and The Glob, and additional versions of Raiden Fighters 2, Guardian Storm, Pasha Pasha Champ, Lethal Enforcers, and X-Men. General usability improvements include friendlier Apple II disassembly, the restoration of key map support in SDL builds (Linux/macOS), and better initial window positioning on Windows.
You can get the source and Windows binary packages from the download page.

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Kecleon Write-up and Recruitment Strategy

Preface

This isn't meant to be a definitive catch-all guide, but rather one to help and give people a fairly cookie cutter means of getting a Kecleon that anyone can do that's based on my own experiences, tests, and theorycrafting. Things like Ginseng and linked moves are not covered here as they throw far too many variables into play.
Hopefully the sheer length of the post doesn't make it seem too daunting of a task as it's really not so bad, I'm just a bit too thorough at times. There's a tl;dr at the end if just want the gist of the strategy.
(I also really hope the formatting on this post doesn't blow up)

What are the requirements for getting a Kecleon?

The absolute minimum requirements for successfully recruiting a Kecleon are as follows:
With everything set up, you'll have a whopping 0.1% chance to successfully recruit one with each KO.

What are Kecleon's stats, moves, and anything else useful to know about it?

Wild Kecleons' levels vary a bit, I've seen ranges of 42-48. Their offensive and defensive stats are all 254-255, with 282-288 HP, and start with an innate double movement speed boost. This cannot be stolen by Psych Up, just to clarify.
Each Kecleon gets a random assortment of moves. The moves they can have at random are: Sucker Punch, Slash, Bind, Screech, Astonish, Psybeam, Shadow Sneak, Faint Attack, Scratch, Fury Swipes, Feint, Thief, Tail Whip, Lick.
Every 3 turns (36 turns is the normal spawn rate), a new Kecleon will spawn. There can be up to 16 Kecleons on the floor at a single time, and do not stop spawning until you move onto the next floor.
When you're being chased by Kecleons, Escape Orbs do not work on that floor, you have to go to the next floor to use it.

What dungeon should I go to?

Any of them where recruiting is allowed that can spawn shops work fine, but I personally always use Mystifying Forest or Mystery Jungle as shops seem to spawn pretty often in those dungeons.

Which Pokémon is the best to recruit a Kecleon with?

Since experimenting with different Pokémon isn't really recommended as the requirements to even start attempting to recruit a Kecleon are pretty steep, this is a very commonly asked question. There are 71 (37 discounting evolution stages) Pokémon that have access to Fast Friend, however I'm only going to focus on 16 of them. This is because those 16 can become immortal (with some extra help) with certain exclusive items or clever use of the move Skill Swap. Yes, even in the face of an infinite swarm of Kecleons. Those 16 are Slowpoke, Slowbro, Exeggcute, Exeggutor, Chansey, Mew, Slowking, Blissey, Celebi, Swablu, Altaria, Chimecho, Jirachi, Chingling, Cresselia, and Manaphy.
But who is the best of those 16? In my opinion the list goes as such:
  1. Manaphy is at the top because it can take full advantage of Weather + STAB for a big damage boost to its water moves, also offering the most moves with the lowest stat thresholds needed for OHKOs that this group of 16 can learn. It also naturally learns four of the recommended water moves, which means less messing with TMs. The simplest and safest option easily.
  2. Slowpoke/Slowbro/Slowking, while they are potentially capable of being better than Manaphy because of their psychic typing allowing them to make use of a Psyche Globe (immunity to Thief) in addition to being able to take advantage of Weather + STAB with their water moves just like Manaphy, they end up having less ease of access on moves because the only fourth water move they can get is Surf, which can be difficult to obtain the HM for in legitimate gameplay which is why I rank them a spot lower.
  3. Celebi's big deal is being able to get STAB from SolarBeam which has its own double damage multiplier, this makes it reach the OHKO threshold far easier than any other move covered here. Besides that though the rest of its movepool is run of the mill and benefits only from STAB, but performs as well as expected. It shines the most if you really want to avoid as much stat grinding as you can, as coupled with Stealth Rock it can potentially get really early OHKOs with SolarBeam, but relying on SolarBeam alone means you'll be choking on Max Elixirs the whole time in a situation with very limited extra inventory space.
  4. Exeggcute/Exeggutor is just Celebi without Stealth Rock, Water Pulse, or Magical Leaf, but has innate Chlorophyll instead of needing to Skill Swap to get it if you prefer that.
  5. Mew/Chansey/Blissey/Jirachi are all about on the same level. They all have a decent amount of moves with decent amounts of PP, have access to Stealth Rock, and have STAB options as well Weather options if they need it, just not options that take advantage of both at once.
  6. Altaria/Cresselia are in the exact same boat as Mew/Chansey/etc, but without access to Stealth Rock. Cresselia only just has enough viable moves though.
  7. Swablu is in a similar spot as Cresselia with just enough viable moves, but they're generally weaker.
  8. Chimecho doesn't have enough viable moves to fill its slots. There's no reason to use it over one of the others.
  9. Chingling has it even worse than Chimecho. Don't.
Though they can't gain stat drop immunity like the above, there are a few honorable mentions that are worth consideration too.

So what's this about becoming immortal?

What makes those 16 of the 71 Fast Frienders capable of becoming immortal is being able to prevent their stats from being dropped. For Swablu and Altaria it's via the exclusive item Tuft Bow since they can't learn Skill Swap, but for the rest it's from the ability Clear Body, which they have to get through using Skill Swap on a partner that has the ability while being blinded by a Blinker Seed. The reason stat drop immunity is so important is because eventually you're going to get hit with Screech/Tail Whip even if you have 10 Evasion boosts up, and then pretty much any of the Kecleons' attacks that land are going to wreck you regardless of your stats.

Can I just rebuff my defense to negate the defense drops?

You can undo Tail Whip's defense drops (at the expense of a move slot), but not Screech's. This is because the game tracks sharp stat drops separately from normal stat drops (which share the addresses with stat boosts), so the only means to reset them is things like going to the next floor, or a Wonder Tile. Things you don't want to do since you lose all of your stat boosts and will need to start all over.

Is Thief a problem? Should I specifically run a psychic type to make use of a Psyche Globe for dark immunity?

Honestly, it really isn't a concern. While every single Kecleon could potentially have it, it needs to roll for it for each of its four move slots out of 13-14 possible moves (depending on their level), then actually attempt to use it on you, and then land it through 10 evasion boosts. Not very likely.

I like to play risky, is there something else I can Skill Swap for more damage instead?

You can get either Swift Swim (Rain) or Chlorophyll (Sun) instead which makes you attack twice per turn (only consuming 1 PP still). Of course the first hit will trigger Color Change before the second hit comes out which will make it hit for less if it's resisted its own type, but despite that you can still expect around a 25-30% decrease in offensive stats needed for OHKOs, assuming STAB. I'm going to be focusing on usage of Clear Body for this guide though, so replace those references as you need to if you go this route. Thanks PetscopMiju for the reminder about these abilities.

Are area-of-effect moves viable?

Unless you plan to run Swift Swim or Chlorophyll with specifically only Wide Slash I'd say no, and even then I'm unsure if it's worth it. The lack of Weather boost, no STAB, and they also seem to miss pretty often, so I don't consider it a worthwhile exchange.

What about the other Fast Frienders, are they good enough or did I waste my time?

If you've already put considerable work into building another Pokémon for the purpose of getting Kecleon, or simply don't want to use the ones I'm recommending, it's perfectly fine. The general setup will still be the same, and while they won't be able to abuse stat drop immunity to become immortal all that means is that you'll have to reset and find another shop more often if you get unlucky with stat drops hitting you, which even the 16 I've outlined will need to start over occasionally because of the floor turn limit.
The reason I push ones capable of becoming immune to stat drops is because the absolute safety it offers gives you more chances to successfully recruit a Kecleon in each run. Anything that can recruit Kecleon will work fine, they'll just require a bit more patience and investment in most cases. If you want to use your Chikorita starter you've been building the whole game, go for it!

What about partners?

While taking partners to fight Kecleons alongside your leader is a very bad idea for numerous reasons, they're crucial for setting up. You are going to want a partner with Acupressure (Doduo/Dodrio [28], Skorupi/Drapion [17]), and a partner with an ability you want, which if you're following my recommendation is Clear Body (Tentacool, Tentacruel, Beldum, Metang, Metagross, Regice, Registeel, Regirock). Optionally you can also take along something with the IQ skill Stair Sensor or something with an exclusive item that increases shop spawn rates if you have one handy to make getting to a shop easier, but it doesn't really matter much. Though some of the 16 don't necessarily need an Acupressure mule, it is a lot simpler than needing to lug more moves around and worry about replacing them too.

So what about Stealth Rock?

Stealth Rock, while nearly useless in regular play, can be a highly viable way to supplement your damage if you're short on stats, but unless you're using a Pokémon that can learn it (in the context of this post that would be Chansey, Mew, Blissey, Celebi, Jirachi) you're out of luck, as you won't be getting a partner to place them where you want.
How Stealth Rock works is it places an invisible trap tile directly under you (it doesn't trip when you step on it yourself), which any enemy that steps on it is dealt 12.5% of their maximum HP regardless of typing (which is 36 damage against Kecleons). This can lower the amount of offensive stats needed for OHKOs by a fair amount, as you can wall yourself off with a layer (or multiple) then let the Kecleons come to you, forcing them to step on the traps. Though because of a quirk with how movement speed and traps interact with enemies, any trap that they don't outright stop on they won't activate so odd numbers of layers of traps work better. Do note however there is a limit of 64 traps per floor (including Wonder Tiles).

What's a typical attempt like?

You'll usually find a shop within 10 or so floors (depending on the dungeon), and once you find one it'll take around 40-50 turns to get set up (if you're using Stealth Rock add another 10-50 turns), and assuming everything goes according to plan and you're OHKOing every time you can expect to defeat around 290-320 Kecleons per run (which is 1000 turns), likely missing about 10% of your total attack attempts. Each full run will take around an hour while not getting too distracted.

What stat thresholds do I need, and what moves should I use?

For your defensive stats, once they're at 130 you should only be taking 1-2 damage when you get hit, so that should be your goal for those, but more never hurts.
Offensive stats are a bit more difficult to pinpoint because of the variables in play, so I made a basic table of info (again, only for the moves that are relevant to the 16 Pokémon I'm covering).
The threshold is being able to deal at least 288 HP in one attack (again, not taking extra modifiers into account). Kecleon is always assumed to be its default normal type.
Move Power Accuracy PP Category Type Normal Min / Max STAB Min / Max Weather Min / Max Weather + STAB Min / Max
Whirlpool 2 78 17 Special Water X / X 253 / 214 253 / 214 192 / 166
Razor Leaf 2 84 12 Physical Grass --- / --- 253 / 214 --- / --- --- / ---
Peck 4 95 26 Physical Flying --- / --- 251 / 213 --- / --- --- / ---
Bubble 4 88 12 Special Water --- / --- 251 / 213 251 / 213 190 / 164
Water Gun 5 88 17 Special Water --- / --- 251 / 212 251 / 212 189 / 163
Confusion 5 85 22 Special Psychic --- / --- 251 / 212 --- / --- --- / ---
BubbleBeam 6 88 10 Special Water --- / --- 249 / 210 251 / 210 188 / 162
Pound 6 90 27 Physical Normal X / X 249 / 210 --- / --- --- / ---
Wing Attack 6 95 20 Physical Flying --- / --- 249 / 210 --- / --- --- / ---
Brine 8 88 8 Special Water X / X 247 / 209 247 / 209 186 / 160
Mega Drain 8 88 17 Special Grass --- / --- 247 / 209 --- / --- --- / ---
Egg Bomb 10 78 15 Physical Normal --- / --- 246 / 207 --- / --- --- / ---
Aerial Ace 10 -- 8 Physical Flying X / X 246 / 207 --- / --- --- / ---
Pluck 10 100 15 Physical Flying --- / --- 246 / 207 --- / --- --- / ---
Psycho Cut 10 88 14 Physical Psychic --- / --- 246 / 207 --- / --- --- / ---
Water Pulse 12 88 12 Special Water X / X 244 / 205 244 / 205 182 / 156
Giga Drain 12 88 10 Special Grass X / X 244 / 205 --- / --- --- / ---
Magical Leaf 12 -- 8 Special Grass --- / --- 244 / 205 --- / --- --- / ---
DragonBreath 12 88 12 Special Dragon --- / --- 244 / 205 --- / --- --- / ---
Drain Punch 13 88 8 Physical Fighting 256 / 215 --- / --- --- / --- --- / ---
Brick Break 14 88 12 Physical Fighting 255 / 214 --- / --- --- / --- --- / ---
Secret Power 14 88 10 Physical Normal X / X 242 / 203 --- / --- --- / ---
Facade 14 84 12 Physical Normal X / X 242 / 203 --- / --- --- / ---
Zen Headbutt 15 88 9 Physical Psychic --- / --- 241 / 202 --- / --- --- / ---
Flash Cannon 15 88 11 Special Steel X / X 241 / 202 --- / --- --- / ---
Aura Sphere 16 -- 10 Special Fighting 253 / 212 --- / --- --- / --- --- / ---
Waterfall 16 88 12 Physical Water X / X 240 / 201 240 / 201 179 / 153
Energy Ball 16 88 11 Special Grass X / X 240 / 201 --- / --- --- / ---
Dragon Claw 16 88 10 Physical Dragon X / X 240 / 201 --- / --- --- / ---
Extrasensory 16 88 12 Special Psychic --- / --- 240 / 201 --- / --- --- / ---
Seed Bomb 16 88 11 Physical Grass --- / --- 240 / 201 --- / --- --- / ---
Bounce 16 100 11 Physical Flying --- / --- 148 / 129 --- / --- --- / ---
Flamethrower 18 88 12 Special Fire X / X --- / --- 238 / 200 --- / ---
Dragon Pulse 18 80 10 Special Dragon X / X 238 / 200 --- / --- --- / ---
SolarBeam 24 100 9 Special Grass 186 / 157 140 / 121 --- / --- --- / ---
Hydro Pump 24 84 8 Special Water --- / --- 233 / 194 --- / --- 171 / 146
Focus Blast 25 80 6 Special Fighting 246 / 205 --- / --- --- / --- --- / ---
Surf 30 88 11 Special Water X / X 226 / 188 226 / 188 165 / 140
Fire Blast 33 88 9 Special Fire X / X --- / --- 224 / 186 --- / ---
Psychic 38 88 10 Special Psychic X / X 219 / 181 --- / --- --- / ---
Stealth Rock -- -- 20 ---- Rock --- / --- --- / --- --- / --- --- / ---

Pokémon Moves they best make use of
Slowpoke Brine, Confusion, Psychic, Surf, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Zen Headbutt
Slowbro / Slowking Brick Break, Brine, Confusion, Drain Punch, Psychic, Surf, Water Gun, Water Pulse, Zen Headbutt, Focus Blast
Exeggcute Confusion, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Psychic, SolarBeam
Exeggutor Confusion, Energy Ball, Seed Bomb, Giga Drain, Psychic, SolarBeam
Chansey Brick Break, Drain Punch, Egg Bomb, Facade, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Pound, Secret Power, SolarBeam, Water Pulse, Stealth Rock
Mew Aura Sphere, Brick Break, Brine, Drain Punch, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Psychic, SolarBeam, Surf, Waterfall, Water Pulse, Focus Blast, Stealth Rock
Chikorita / Bayleef / Meganium Razor Leaf, Magical Leaf, SolarBeam, Giga Drain, Energy Ball
Hoppip / Skiploom / Jumpluff Mega Drain, Giga Drain, Bounce, SolarBeam, Aerial Ace, Energy Ball
Mantine Bubble, BubbleBeam, Wing Attack, Water Pulse, Bounce, Hydro Pump, Aerial Ace, Brine, Surf, Waterfall, Whirlpool
Blissey Brick Break, Drain Punch, Egg Bomb, Facade, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Pound, Secret Power, SolarBeam, Water Pulse, Focus Blast, Stealth Rock
Celebi Confusion, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Magical Leaf, Psychic, SolarBeam, Water Pulse, Stealth Rock
Swablu Aerial Ace, Peck, Pluck, SolarBeam
Altaria Aerial Ace, DragonBreath, Dragon Claw, Dragon Pulse, Peck, Pluck, SolarBeam, Flamethrower, Fire Blast
Chimecho Confusion, Extrasensory, Psychic
Jirachi Confusion, Drain Punch, Flash Cannon, Psychic, Water Pulse, Zen Headbutt, Stealth Rock
Chingling Confusion, Psychic
Mantyke Bubble, BubbleBeam, Wing Attack, Water Pulse, Bounce, Hydro Pump, Aerial Ace, Surf, Waterfall, Whirlpool
Cresselia Confusion, Psychic, Psycho Cut, SolarBeam
Manaphy Brine, Bubble, BubbleBeam, Surf, Waterfall, Water Pulse, Whirlpool

Time for preparations!

Once you've raised your stats to appropriate levels and have all the requirements to successfully recruit a Kecleon checked off, it's finally time to actually give it a go.
Go fetch your Acupressure and Clear Body mules from the assembly, and optionally a Stair Sensoshop influencer if you have/want that. Go into your recruiter's IQ skills and turn Nature Gifter, Wary Fighter, Gap Prober, and Nontraitor OFF or they will cause problems.
If you're going to be running Skill Swap, go get a TM for it from your storage (you do have one, right?) and teach it to your recruiter. You should also make them remembelearn three other moves that you've picked out, preferably from the above list, leaving out one of the moves they'll need to learn from a TM (NOT HM, you cannot learn HMs mid-dungeon), keeping that TM in your bag to overwrite your fourth move with once it's no longer needed. Though it's kind of a no-brainer I'll say it anyways, don't use conflicting move types and weather.
As for items, bring all of the following with you:
To avoid having to do all that again, make sure you save. Now that you're all set up, head into the dungeon you're going to use for your attempts.

What to do in the dungeon?


I finally got the darn lizard! So what's Kecleon good for?

Congratulations! But honestly?... Nothing. It's mostly just a trophy or to complete your roster. Sure it comes at max stats, but the experience it requires for each level is so ridiculous that it ends up needing around 1.5x as much experience to get it from level 48 to 100 as it would most other Pokémon to get from level 1 to 100, and it comes at 1 IQ like everything else but ultimately gains nothing stat-wise from gummies so half of the effects are wasted. You'd be better off feeding them to your recruiter to finish capping them out since they're probably fairly close already, or work on another Pokémon with more utility instead.
For extra insult, Kecleon is literally the worst possible choice for level reset dungeons too, as at level 1 it has 1 in all stats (including HP) and needs 15020 experience for its first level which only gives it 1 HP. It doesn't start actually getting more stat boosts than that per level until level 30, requiring a total of 705107 experience to get there, which is absolutely not possible to reach in such a dungeon, especially when even a single hit will kill it.

I don't want to read all of this. What's the gist of this strategy?

You should at least read the preparations and dungeon segment to know the setup process, but okay.
The idea is to find a shop, fully buff your evasion, blind your recruiter to use Skill Swap to steal Clear Body off a partner, demolish the floor with a One-Room Orb and Drought Orb, use your other partner to fully buff your recruiter using Acupressure, put up weather and Stealth Rock tiles if you intend to use them, steal from Kecleon, then beat up lots of lizards until you recruit one. Reset and start over as needed.
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